Juist give me your address Phil, and we can get this lawsuit started. The police will have your accomplices in this, and they will have started with the head of the group in the commission of the crimes against me.
All I need is that to start the ball rolling. And just so you know, I'm not telling you this to threaten you; I'm telling you this so that I can have my full legal satisfaction from you.
That's why there's a legal system.
I'm sure your government wouldn't mind extraditing an enemy of their government. Espicially if it's up to just their Department of Defense(or Defence, whichever spelling is used on your enemies list).
Come on, your friends were the ones to dare me. Wait, double dare. Or was it triple? Whatever. A dare's a dare, I guess.
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Joeker,
Check with the Australian Ministry of Lunatics. The Mookchow may know where to find him. I don't want my agent to blow his cover since I'm having Phil stalked but I should be able to give you his address. Would you like some pictures of his wife while I'm at it?
How can you get the closure Aspies need when you keep going like this? Do you need the closure, the end to this insanity, or do you need the fight, to give you something to han g your hat on?
I'm guessing closure is much better, but you have to make a choice, and this whole fighting thing has to stop or else one of these people is going to get hurt.
And if anyone here wants to see that, no matter who you are, your friendships, your affiliation with whatever groups, then you don't belong online.
Take the closure, man. You need it, and everyone deserves it.
Oh dear God. It has not really come down to more posturing has it?
Are the Hot Tubber's getting to you? Why? Is Phil worth that much of your intellect?
Is this healthy or even cathartic for you?
Would it not be easier to look at the bountiful amount of laughable commentary these losers go with? I used to get a kick out of seeing it elsewhere but I am kinda glad that they have come here to bring tears of laughter. It is a real shame you can not see how lame it is.
Borusa was about as "heavy" as them all and he came across as an oxygen thief with a pathological masturbation problem. (In so far as he was a master at baiting you) No that is not what I meant.
Man, I haven't been online for a while. Let's see...
I'm unsure about accepting the advice of someone calling themselves Nazi. =P
Ross; If it'll come to legal action, may as well be prepared. Apparently, they're waiting for my next move against them. Which, of course, is not coming, lest they return to cause more havoc, harassment, vandalism, and annoyance.
It's part of why I don't like profanity. When it comes to idiots who use profanity taken straight from Eminem's rap CDs, I get very annoyed.
Thank-you for dismissing me out of hand based on a name. How all-encompassing and un-elitist of you.
I'm really not sure what is going on with the other person and yourself, but to dismiss some-one because of a label... Isn't that what you are accusing this other fellow of?
Aspies need closure; without it, things ferment and overload in their minds. It feels like that is all that matters.
And now you perpetuate a stereotype.
Thank-you.
Just returning the favor, Grammar. After all, I'm just an Aspie. Of course we're all the same.
I dismissed you not because of your name, but because of what you wrote. Of course, rather than take the time to answer all of your points in an honest manner which likely would've infuriated you, I simply decided that it wasn't worth the time to get into another argument.
Aspies this, Aspies that.
I answered your stereotype with stereotype. As you've seen, it's quite maddening to be stereotyped.
You said yourself, you're not really sure what's going on. I'm not about to draw attention back here because you want an explanation. I'm not trying to make frineds and earn allies to fight some battle. I take care of my problems, and try not to drag people in. That's Phil's purpose, not mine.
I generally dislike being labelled and having assumptions made about me. Like that I should "take the closure," otherwise meaning; being coerced into silence by vandalism and harassment, by a group of adults. Like needing closure which is nothing but selling out my morals. Would you be coerced against your will by harassment from several people to no longer mention the name of someone, when they will not do the same, come hell or high water?
Quite simply, I will not let a liar and a criminal insult me and others while forcing me to be silent.
Would any sane individual agree to never say someone's name, when this person is calling you an idiot, a liar, and a fraud? Would any sane individual really do that, while they're being called a fake?
Phil is a complete and total lunatic, demanding I never say his name again as he delights in ranting about me on his wiki, as he sends friends with Dr. Who villain names after me, as he tells me I'm not an Aspie because he doesn't want me to be.
He is a child. Petulant, whiny, and spoiled. If you ask me to never say his name, first show me that he is willing to do the same. He is not, and never will. That's why I keep going. I'd rather fight than be silenced by harassment.
That's a better reply.
And, no, my detailing of what people with Asperger's need is not stereotyping, it is standard fact.
However, I can see why you cannot get closure. If this other person is doing all that you have said (and I have read much of what has gone on here), and he is in another country, then how can you hope to combat him? He's got you on a mental leash, waiting for him or his friends to do something before he tugs it again and makes you respond.
Come on, your life is better than that. Everyone's life is better than that.
Use some of this passion you are so clearly building up and USE it. You've got art and writing blogs; use them. Get it out.
But as to how to combat it...
I cannot even begin to know how. All I can say is having read this Fore Sam's writings, he scares me. But you need to find a way that does not let you go to his level, nor allows you to continue to build up internally.
Easier said than done, I know.
Good luck, and at least now I have a slightly better understanding than before.
Sure, sure. And what you need, based on your username, is perfect grammar. But if you don't get perfect grammar, is it going to eat away at your mind until you freak out?
Just because I'm an Aspie, it doesn't mean I'm a disorder, clasified in a book. I'm a person.
I've got my own goals on HA. Sure, the content gets pretty bad there, but only open, honest discussion shows what people are concerned over.
One of my concerns is Autistic rights. I want equality. I don't want superiority.
As it stands, there're problems with the Autistic Community that can't just be fixed by one guy. It needs attention, it needs to change. Aspies speaking for LFAs with one side of their mouth while calling them stupid out the other. Aspies calling AS an ability out of one side of their mouth while asking for the disability cheque out the other. People using the spectrum to pretend that they're worse off than they are. And more.
Aspies telling people to celebrate the joys of Autism, which is to them their Aspergers, and is to other parents, a mockery of their child.
Aspie Supremacy, Discrimination against others on the Spectrum...
Of course, I'm not exactly for anyone on the other side of the tracks either. I stand on the tracks. When a train comes, I have to step off the tracks onto either side. Metaphorically, the tracks are the middle, neither aggreeing or disagrreing. A train is a hard decision, and the sides of the tracks are fairly obvious.
So, in essence, I'm not worried about things building up inside. I've got some good outlets, and of course, I'm constantly improving on my talents. I think I'll start posting poems I write here and on my writing blog more often. May as well.
So where are the cops, Joeker? Who's the fucking liar, huh?
Oh. You're back.
Sorry, I can't find you. Plus, I'd hate to have to bring police down on some of your compatriots. As it is, these are real people with real lives.
But Phil doesn't have the same decency. After all, he sent you.
Oh Borusa! The enigmatic leader of the Hot Tubbers is back!
"Borusa said...
So where are the cops, Joeker? Who's the fucking liar, huh?"
Hand off it Borusa. You are playing with yourself far too much. Cut back and your eyes will stop being cross-eyes your wrist will stop hurting and you will have a half a chance of saying something intelligent.
In the meantime you are leaving a big puddle around the computer desk. Get back into the hot tub with your boyfriends (The hot tubbers) they are asking for you. You are for more useful to them there than what you are to s or yourself here.
I say it again you are an absolute joke
Damn this is a funny turn around. Timelord gave you all his blessing to come on Joekers site and be arseholes and you were too much of an arsehole for even Timelord to stomach.
That is like being kicked out of the Klu Klux KLan for being too racist.
I love the commentary here. It makes me laugh. Come on Joeker don't you see the humour in all this? These guys are hilarious.
Sorry, this is the first I've been on since my last comment.
Oh, the irony, the irony...
It's almost too much to bear! It's... It's just so beyond words, how this is. Timelord even threatened him.
I mean... wow. Just... just wow.
So the harassment is over then, I take it. I'm glad I no longer need to moderate things. It's a nice relief, to not have to verify whether or not to let people talk, to have them waiting around for me to show up.
I can understand your lack of appreciation for the irony. After all, he was acting on your behalf.
Phase? God, you sound like some old B-Movie villain revealing a master plan.
The next phase? I am filled with equal parts disrespect towards you, and trepidation at what madness you're plotting.
Seriously, you're taking things too far. If this surprise is anything like your previous efforts, I'm in for yet more coercion and threats.
*Sigh*
Troubling.
It didn't occur to you that you were bringing this on yourself? Dude, why can't you face it. Phil's a fruitcake, and fruitcakes are best avoided totally. If you don't, they pursue you until they get what they want. Yeah - scary. But you can stop it. By doing as he tells you. Stupid as it sounds, he's doing you a favor!
"Timelord said...
Lumbus - shut up! Yes I gave them all clearance, but Borusa crossed the line and we all knew it. I told everyone to stop the attack when I found out - and who has been here since? He went too far and wrecked the whole thing.
This phase is over, Joeker.
The next phase should be in your email very soon (unless something goes wrong). Not from me or my IRL or Net friends....."
"Shut up Lumbus" Oh that's me! And you ordered it. So....that means....what exactly? I should pay you attention? Consider you as a figure of authority to be listened to respected or obeyed? Oh I forgot feared! What did ED call you? Internet tough guy? You make me laugh too. LOL
"Yes I gave them all clearance" ..... to be arseholes....we know!
We saw. You already admitted it. Downplay it now, like you do that LFA comment. Both stupid, not thought out and nasty. But hey that is Timelord.
For what it is worth they are all pretty piss-weak and pretty pathetic. They made me all laugh and I names them the Hot Tubbers. So thanks for that. I think even Joeker is appreciating the humour.
"I told everyone to stop the attack when I found out" Too late. Way too late. You sponsored their terrorist attack and then were unprepared when your agents went rogue.
Of course if it was serious the effect could be devastating. Fortunately instead we got a poorly represented, literacy challenged,
sycophantic losers trying in vain to be intimidating. What a bloody stupid effort!
Oh and who defined what was too far...what was acceptable...what was right or wrong....Timelord?
Oh yeah there is a walking definition of decency. LOL
"and who has been here since?" Do we care? Does it matter. Is this a ..."I can turn it on or off Joeker.....Grrrrrr!!!" kind of statement? Because Joeker can just choose not to let your comments get through too. I personally would like more comments to go through because let's face it....you know how it is...getting home after a busy day at work, mentally drained and exhausted and stressed...log on to Blog of many trades. Yay! We have Borusa and the Hot Tubbers trying to be tough and Phil's mental meanderings. I laugh so hard. I can then wind down for the night. I love that shit! I really do hope Joeker let's more comments in...especially when they try to be mean and nasty....ooooooo!!!! PMSL!LOL!
"He went too far and wrecked the whole thing"
No he didn't. He is hysterical. So is Oracle, Lynx and the rest of the Hot Tubbers. If wrecked it was by being funny then I am afraid it was wrecked the moment you concluded your secret clubby house meeting and decided that you would send your sycophantic minions to decend on Joeker's blog.
If wrecked you mean he was too nasty then I think you are overly generous. He comes across as a wanker of epic proportions but not one to be taken seriously....Oh yes I "mean" wanker.
"This phase is over, Joeker.
The next phase should be in your email very soon (unless something goes wrong). Not from me or my IRL or Net friends....."
I can't help it I read this and automatically I started humming the Dr Who theme music. Seemed entirely appropriate. The terrible threat, the unknown twist, the "...." to be concluded, the lack of reality or rationality so readily acceptable on crap Sci-Fi shows but not in sane people's actual reality....
This too makes me laugh.
I have had a tough week. I may actually go to view what ForeSam has said about you and starting a petition on you. I hope you have replied. That is REALLY funny! LOL
I just thought of something.
Joeker, it is possible that the article Phil wrote about you was his way of getting closure, and you are trying to deny him that closure. I'm not defending him on the content, but aren't you being a bit of a hypocrite by demanding your closure through denying him his? You both need it as Grammar Nazi observed, but this isn't going to happen if one denies the other to achieve their own.
Hope you had a great day otherwise.
Something must've gone wrong, since I've seen naught. Perhaps it may be stuck in an internet tube? As we all know, the internet is not a big truck, it's a series of tubes.
But seriously, I've seen nothing. Nada. I wonder what's going on.
Oh noes! Some giant, looming threat of certain doom is coming to me by email! Whatever shall I do? It is truly the end of times!
*insert more sarcasm here*
A test, huh? Did your test conditions call for a fourteeen hour shift of straight online time? I got up early that morning to do some browsing, do some pet projects, and so on. I was already tired and ready to call it a day when the first of the hot-tubbers arrived.
3 AM with no caffeine, no food since an early dinner, and nothing to drink or eat, coherency does not make.
Have my traits under control, you asked? Physically, sure. Whoever said that I'm a master of the mind? My body does as I will it. A human mind is a much more delicate thing. Plus, how many normal people could go through that and not start crying? How many people could be crushed under your "friends," mocked, ridiculed, threatened. Have you ever tried typing while crying? Obviously not. Have you ever lost your temper, or do you like to think that you're a robot, or an alien visitor, and that anger does not become you? Ever gotten so raging mad, that you can't even type straight?
I don't kid myself. I can either work, work hard, towards a good life, or I can resign myself to being a drain and a burden, and whine about it online trying to change things to suit how I want them to be. I'm not disabled, I say. I'm not disabled, you say. The difference is, I prove it by trying to do as everyone else does. Not by trying to be better than them.
So, if I go into a hostile work enviroment, filled with people who want nothing more than to insult, demean, degrade, threaten, and abuse me, then I can't cope? Find me a "normal" person who CAN! Yo uthink a real workplace is jsut like what happened here? You're a freaking paranoid nutcase!
I'm actually feeling a little grateful to Borusa now, since he fucked up your Master plan and has you scrambling over Plan B. I like that. It's kind of like an old cartoon show. As funny as one too.
And as for your plots and schemes... I wonder how it feels, if you're opponent isn't plotting and scheming? If they're not doing anything to get back at you, if they're not planning things IRL, if they aren't getting their friends to help them harass someone, if they aren't doing little faux-tests.
I wonder how you feel about your actions, when none of them are responded to in kind? I wonder just how far you will push, before I push back?
Anonymous; Well, he did come here to post a link to that article, and in a topic where I was moving on, and throwing about ideas on what next to write. Bam, out of nowhere, this article. If he wanted to move on, he'd have left and been satisfied. If he wanted closure, he could've said; "Okay Joeker, let's talk this out. What do you think happened?" or "Okay Joeker, let's talk this out. Here's what I think happened."
But no, he wanted to make it a part of his "history" that I was an idiot, a liar, and so on. And it's all been wiped clean, as was promised. He's the hypocrite. I was told a "clean slate," so I did. What happened? He spat in my face. He's even said my apology over the whole misunderstanding was insincere, and threw it out so he could validate this little war on me.
He made the deal, I took the deal. He never saud anything about never talking to him again. Now, he's back, again, breaking his word byu posting here. He said he was posting here the last time so many times, it wasn't worth noticing. And when he finally had left, he's now back, only to deliver threats, ultimatums, and to mock me and the people posting here.
We could wipe out all of this, could clean the slate, only this time, Phil will clean as completely as I. We could do that. But Phil wants to prove something, isn't satisfied with just having people try to push teenagers into depression, trying to have them pushed into suicide, trying to force silence. He wants everything he can take from me. My pride, of having survived my life and my accomplishments. My self esteem, that which was so woefully absent when I was a child wondering why no one wanted to play with me, be my friend, even look at me. My blog, where I can write and make my voice present on the internet. My voice, he wants to silence me because of what I represent. I represent myself, diagnosed from age 8, now 18, and how I'm not going to settle for a disability cheque while arguing that AS is enabling, not disabling.
Do you know how much it hurts to be pitied, not for anything of your own make, but because you have Aspergers? Have you ever felt that it's not you people care about, but your Autism? That you're nothing to people but a disorder? It's terrible.
Oh. Now it's here.
Rossco... Run. Run fast, run far, don't look back, and don't. Stop. Running.
I had no idea he'd go to such lengths... Oh my god...
Oh let me guess. Hmmm....he threatened Foresam with legal action when he had a differing opinion, he threatened me when I shared and verbalised different opinions......Oh can I guess what has happened?
How old was that last kid you took to court Timelord and how old are you?
If you are threatening me with the same Timelord, I will front and will beat you and will ask the court to put a lien from your Centrelink payments until the my court costs are paid off.
You have by your own admission harrassed shit out of Joeker and you will go to the court with dirty hands holding yourself out as victimised. It will not take IF it defended and you are used to people being cowed by you and giving up before they get to court. I don't play like that and I have my own lawyer. I have a job that I can pay towards court costs.
If you do not like what is written about you stop causing trouble and nothing will get written about you. Cause shit and people will react negatively and self-righteous "I was defending myself" statements aside YOU deserve it. You do not take any responsibility for the crap or distress you cause people and you are a nasty piece of work.
Oh and your test was Bullshit and you know this.
No work I or Joker or any bloody one else will be in will be blogging online.
What did your "method" prove?
Not a lot huh?
Joker's Aspie traits? I have Aspie traits too yet I have been unemployed less than you have been employed so......
You are saying a teenage bloke with Asperger's won't be able to handle work? I was a teenager once and I manage. He will too.
So if you said "method in your madness" and the method was non-existant. What does that leave Timelord?
Timelord fuck off and leave Joeker alone. Play on your website, play pretend in the Heel wrestling manager thing, recruit more people on your petition. You have done enough to Joeker and you are acting like a A grade bully.
IN the words of Buzz Lightyear:
"You are a sad, strange little man. you have my pity"
How old was that last kid you took to court Timelord and how old are you?
Irrelevant, because he was found guilty of a criminal act and was restrained accordingly.
"The most dangerous of all falsehoods is a slightly distorted truth." --
G. C. Lichtenberg (1742-1799)
Wise words
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